Wisconsin is close as both Kohl and Feingold lack House expirence. Robert Kasten was a House member and he was right before Feingold.
Before that neither Proxmire and Nelson has house expirence neither Joe McCarthy and neither did Alexander Wiley. So bad to 1946 only one Wisconsin senator had house expirence.
Good old Utah. I find one back in 1940 that had house expirence. Its hard to account for this Utah trend. As I said the familar pattern is House to Senate and often Governor to Senate. Not so in Utah. I cannot really account for it other then statistics. You know that old if have 32 people in a room there over a 50% chance that two people will share a birthday. I guess with 50 states theres always a statistic Utah.
In one way the Bennetts, father and son is typical of Utah. Wallace Bennett(1950 to 1974) was a businessman. His son Robert (1992 to current) was also in business. Now Orrin Hatch (1977 to Present) was just a lawyer until he ran for the senate.
I guess old Hatch deserves a few notes. He was born in PA became a lawyer and a Morman bishop and then moved to Utah. (or was it the other way around moved to Utah and then became a Morman Bishop?) He made no runs for political office, but became very active in the Reagan campaign in 1976. Utah chooses its delegates by caucus and Hatch literally worked full time to get Reagan those delegates.
By the summer of 1976 it was obvious that no promiment Repblican was going to challedge incumbent democratic senator Frank Moss. So on the last day Hatch filed for the Republican nomination. They select senate nominees by caucus and convention in Utah and Hatch basically just campaigned among the same folks for the senate nomination. Hatch had a very effective speech in this process. He came with an easel and put two pictures on it. One was a picture of Ronald Reagan. The other was a picture of Reagan and Hatch. Hatch swapped the pictures out during his presentation. Hatch got the most votes at the convention and then easily beat the runnerup in a primary.
The general election against Moss was harder, but a funny thing had happened in Utah. The state had became much more conservative. In 1960 the state was only about 5% more republican then the nation as a whole in the Presidential race. In 1976 Ford got 65% of the vote in Utah and that was about 15% ahead of the national republican vote.
Hatch won in an upset and is still there and will probably become chairman of the Finance committee in 2008.
Something to think about. First, McCain appearance on MTP should have disappointed all true conservatives.
But, if McCain truly wanted to preapare himself for a White House run he should do the following: Challenge Janet Napolitano in the 2006 Gubanatorial race. When he cruises to easy victory there, fill his empty Sen seat with a farrrrrrrrrrrr right Republican (Jeff Flake anyone?) Than he can enter the GOP field with the all important Gov’s experience on his resume and will have thrilled conservatives with his Sen appt.
Tim V — last one censured, I think, was David Durenberger. I’m guessing 9 or 10 were censured, including Tallmadge, Joe Mccarthy, and Thomas Dodd and Hiram Bingham, both of CT.
I have mentioned several times the Hollins Six. Those mid-day drinkers who welcomed Ernest Hollins to the Senate in 1966.
Some of been subjects of Trivia questions.
Thomas Dodd (1)as mentioned had to one of them.
Richard Russell(2) for sure.
John Tower (3) almost positive
and now the above mentioned Herman Talmadge (4) almost for certain.
Press reports at the time of Hollin’s remarks also pointed to Thurston Morton (5) of Kentucky as a likely candidate.
I am certain of the other one or whether Hollins was just saying 5 or 6 drunks and was wanting to detail an exact number.
I am not sure what Bingham did. Its worth noting that this CT. Yankee’s son became a Liberal democratic congressman from NY. Other then McCarthy all the above mentioned censured senators had money handling problems. A senator can pretty much what they want on the floor unless called on the carpet by the presiding officer. Kinda like the few instances where the speaker in the house has called a member down for his remarks.
Remember the series “Chicago Hope”? In the first episode, the chief of staff, Dr. Austin Hacket, croaked while screwing an intern (I think it was an intern) in a MRI machine.
From yesterday:
Ralph: 3
Real American: 2
TimV: 1
Congrats to Ralph on last week’s victory.
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 7:35 am
Wisconsin?
Comment by jones — June 20, 2005 @ 7:49 am
Wisconsin is close as both Kohl and Feingold lack House expirence. Robert Kasten was a House member and he was right before Feingold.
Before that neither Proxmire and Nelson has house expirence neither Joe McCarthy and neither did Alexander Wiley. So bad to 1946 only one Wisconsin senator had house expirence.
Comment by ralph — June 20, 2005 @ 9:14 am
I would note also that Gaylord Nelson was governor, which would also disqualify WI as the state.
Comment by palinurus — June 20, 2005 @ 9:20 am
Kansas?
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 9:26 am
Scratch that; forgot about Sam Brownback.
How about Vermont?
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 9:31 am
Scratch that; forgot about George Aiken.
Utah?
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 9:34 am
Dole also served a term in the House from KS. And the interesting and lively Jim Jeffords served in the House too. So it can’t be Vermont.
Comment by palinurus — June 20, 2005 @ 9:35 am
I think Utah is right.
Comment by palinurus — June 20, 2005 @ 9:41 am
Did you say Ute?
What’s a Ute?
Comment by Gerry — June 20, 2005 @ 9:47 am
(methinks pw is correct)
Comment by Gerry — June 20, 2005 @ 9:47 am
Palinurus,
I already corrected my two previous goofs.:)
I remembered Brownback from the Newt revolution.
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 9:48 am
Gerry,
You a “My Cousin Vinnie” fan?:)
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 9:48 am
PW Congrats
Good old Utah. I find one back in 1940 that had house expirence. Its hard to account for this Utah trend. As I said the familar pattern is House to Senate and often Governor to Senate. Not so in Utah. I cannot really account for it other then statistics. You know that old if have 32 people in a room there over a 50% chance that two people will share a birthday. I guess with 50 states theres always a statistic Utah.
In one way the Bennetts, father and son is typical of Utah. Wallace Bennett(1950 to 1974) was a businessman. His son Robert (1992 to current) was also in business. Now Orrin Hatch (1977 to Present) was just a lawyer until he ran for the senate.
I guess old Hatch deserves a few notes. He was born in PA became a lawyer and a Morman bishop and then moved to Utah. (or was it the other way around moved to Utah and then became a Morman Bishop?) He made no runs for political office, but became very active in the Reagan campaign in 1976. Utah chooses its delegates by caucus and Hatch literally worked full time to get Reagan those delegates.
By the summer of 1976 it was obvious that no promiment Repblican was going to challedge incumbent democratic senator Frank Moss. So on the last day Hatch filed for the Republican nomination. They select senate nominees by caucus and convention in Utah and Hatch basically just campaigned among the same folks for the senate nomination. Hatch had a very effective speech in this process. He came with an easel and put two pictures on it. One was a picture of Ronald Reagan. The other was a picture of Reagan and Hatch. Hatch swapped the pictures out during his presentation. Hatch got the most votes at the convention and then easily beat the runnerup in a primary.
The general election against Moss was harder, but a funny thing had happened in Utah. The state had became much more conservative. In 1960 the state was only about 5% more republican then the nation as a whole in the Presidential race. In 1976 Ford got 65% of the vote in Utah and that was about 15% ahead of the national republican vote.
Hatch won in an upset and is still there and will probably become chairman of the Finance committee in 2008.
Comment by ralph — June 20, 2005 @ 9:54 am
I’m getting good at these trivia questions.:)
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 10:42 am
Here’s a trivia question : How many Senators have been censured by the Senate ? Who was the last one ?
Comment by Tim V — June 20, 2005 @ 12:20 pm
Something to think about. First, McCain appearance on MTP should have disappointed all true conservatives.
But, if McCain truly wanted to preapare himself for a White House run he should do the following: Challenge Janet Napolitano in the 2006 Gubanatorial race. When he cruises to easy victory there, fill his empty Sen seat with a farrrrrrrrrrrr right Republican (Jeff Flake anyone?) Than he can enter the GOP field with the all important Gov’s experience on his resume and will have thrilled conservatives with his Sen appt.
Thoughts?
Comment by Denton — June 20, 2005 @ 12:21 pm
Tim V — last one censured, I think, was David Durenberger. I’m guessing 9 or 10 were censured, including Tallmadge, Joe Mccarthy, and Thomas Dodd and Hiram Bingham, both of CT.
Comment by palinurus — June 20, 2005 @ 12:46 pm
your right Palinurus
http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-united-states-senators-expelled-or-censured
Comment by Tim V — June 20, 2005 @ 12:55 pm
I have mentioned several times the Hollins Six. Those mid-day drinkers who welcomed Ernest Hollins to the Senate in 1966.
Some of been subjects of Trivia questions.
Thomas Dodd (1)as mentioned had to one of them.
Richard Russell(2) for sure.
John Tower (3) almost positive
and now the above mentioned Herman Talmadge (4) almost for certain.
Press reports at the time of Hollin’s remarks also pointed to Thurston Morton (5) of Kentucky as a likely candidate.
I am certain of the other one or whether Hollins was just saying 5 or 6 drunks and was wanting to detail an exact number.
I am not sure what Bingham did. Its worth noting that this CT. Yankee’s son became a Liberal democratic congressman from NY. Other then McCarthy all the above mentioned censured senators had money handling problems. A senator can pretty much what they want on the floor unless called on the carpet by the presiding officer. Kinda like the few instances where the speaker in the house has called a member down for his remarks.
Comment by ralph — June 20, 2005 @ 1:14 pm
Here is a very important scientific study about female orgasms. I wonder if they had any trouble signing up the participants?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050620/sc_nm/health_fertility_orgasm_dc_1
Comment by McCain — June 20, 2005 @ 1:25 pm
Hmmm…hope Lisa sees this.:)
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 2:02 pm
While I believe in research and female orgasms, I find it a little creepy that people wanted to be measured and scanned during their fun time.
Comment by Bitterlaw — June 20, 2005 @ 2:03 pm
The folks who did it in a CAT scan always concerned me. That is creepy on many levels.
Comment by jones — June 20, 2005 @ 2:41 pm
Remember the series “Chicago Hope”? In the first episode, the chief of staff, Dr. Austin Hacket, croaked while screwing an intern (I think it was an intern) in a MRI machine.
Comment by pw — June 20, 2005 @ 2:51 pm
Wasn’t the Torch censured?
Comment by CJ — June 20, 2005 @ 6:29 pm
The Torch flew the coop before anything that serious could occur. He just had his hand slapped.
Even Packwood resigned before it came to censure or worse.
Comment by ralph — June 20, 2005 @ 6:40 pm